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Andy - thanks for the info on the DIENQ, so the sequence you follow with this is:

1) Match drill to #40
2) Disassemble
3) Debur
4) Dimple with the DIENQ
5) Ream with a #30 reamer (not a #30 drill?), no more deburring?
6) Assemble and rivet

Rick H

I received the above discussed dimple die today and tried it out on some scrap pieces. Works 4.0 and only one out of the eight samples I tried needed one hole to be reamed with a #30 after the dimple was squeezed. On all of the others the rivets dropped right in both holes with a perfect fit and good results.

The die provides a very nice clean dimple that seemed to produce some of the best flush rivet results I have personally done (but I'm only talking about one completed Panther tail kit at this point). I haven't had any issues with proud stems so I can't make a qualified observation on that side of the issue.

Seems like a good piece of gear but your results may vary!

Andy

Yes, that is the right part number "DIENQ" and it is not available on their site, but you can order one by calling them. I did and should be getting mine soon.

DAN W. Please let me know how to adjust the tension on the Burraway blade. I did not know that adjustment was available on it. I love that tool.

The "DIENQ" die will be shipped next week! If you are interested go to Cleveland's site and do a search for it and it will come up. Mike said yesterday that it is 1/2 is done, and the other will be done next week. The price is $50.

ynkster wrote:The die-DIENQ isn't listed on their site. Would it be the "DIECS4-4", 1/8th, also out of stock?

It is a prototype - should be released soon.

That's the correct part number. Be patient, young man.

Tony

The die-DIENQ isn't listed on their site. Would it be the "DIECS4-4", 1/8th, also out of stock?

Can't wait to see photos and get some feedback!


Rachel

Just stopped by Cleaveland tool and saw Mikes new die prototype. Simply match drill holes to #40, disassemble, debur, dimple, then run a 30 reamer through, reassemble, rivet away. He hopes to have one to try on my horizontal stab Monday. I will post results.

Its amazing how people have such different opinions of the same thing.I have in the past and still use just about every method of deburring, except the offset swively thing Tony posted. I threw mine away 10 minutes after I tried it. I absolutely hate those things.I used to use a bit I got at a aircraft surplus site spun in a cheap low speed cordless screw driver. Then I started using the burr away. Many people dont adjust the spring tension correctly so they either do nothibg or over do it. When set up correctly I haven't found anything better. I also hate using abrasive wheels to deburr but some love them? Oh well to each our own, figure what you like and get it done!
Dan