There is advantage to a lighter empty weight by using a smaller engine, say an 0-200 v 0-320 but introduce a short field and high density altitude and the smaller engine frequently can't cut it. An extra 60 hp can make the difference in making a nice take off and being in the trees at the end of the runway...just my thoughts on having an 0-320.
Can the 100 lb increase in gross weight be authorized at a lower G rating and restricted to no aerobatics?
Weight considerations with O-320
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Weight considerations with O-320
Hi all,
I'm pretty set on building a Panther, and although I'm far from buying an engine, I just wanted to check on the feasibility of using an O-320 for my 6'2", 220 lbs. frame.
Bob Wooley's Panther Sport with the O-320 came in at 828 lbs. empty weight:
http://flywithspa.com/panthercave/viewt ... =324#p1665
Working through the numbers (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong anywhere, I'm a first-time builder):
Empty Weight: 828 lbs.
Gross Weight: 1150 lbs.
Fuel Tank Capacity: 27 gallons
Fuel Weight (full): 27 gallons * 6 lbs./gallon = 162 lbs.
Max Load: 160 lbs.
Fuel Weight (half): 13.5 gallons * 6 lbs./gallon = 81 lbs.
Max Load: 251 lbs.
So if I went with an O-320, I'd have to either go on a diet, or fly with half-full tanks.
I saw in another post that Bob's 0-320 uses the dynafocal mount, and that going with a conical mount would save 20 lbs (http://flywithspa.com/panthercave/viewt ... &t=53#p605).
I also noticed that the Sport version's gross weight may increase by 100 lbs., pending further testing (http://flywithspa.com/panthercave/viewt ... port#p1227)?
I was aiming for using an O-320 since I wanted a 150-160HP engine. But I'm open to an O-200 as well. Part of me would be very excited to build a Corvair engine - I've always wanted to learn how to work on engines - but most of me wants to feel secure about the engine keeping my rear in the air
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Anyways, my question is, has the testing for the Panther Sport's gross weight been done, and what is the likelihood of the gross weight going up to 1250 lbs.?
Thanks,
Stephen
I'm pretty set on building a Panther, and although I'm far from buying an engine, I just wanted to check on the feasibility of using an O-320 for my 6'2", 220 lbs. frame.
Bob Wooley's Panther Sport with the O-320 came in at 828 lbs. empty weight:
http://flywithspa.com/panthercave/viewt ... =324#p1665
Working through the numbers (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong anywhere, I'm a first-time builder):
Empty Weight: 828 lbs.
Gross Weight: 1150 lbs.
Fuel Tank Capacity: 27 gallons
Fuel Weight (full): 27 gallons * 6 lbs./gallon = 162 lbs.
Max Load: 160 lbs.
Fuel Weight (half): 13.5 gallons * 6 lbs./gallon = 81 lbs.
Max Load: 251 lbs.
So if I went with an O-320, I'd have to either go on a diet, or fly with half-full tanks.
I saw in another post that Bob's 0-320 uses the dynafocal mount, and that going with a conical mount would save 20 lbs (http://flywithspa.com/panthercave/viewt ... &t=53#p605).
I also noticed that the Sport version's gross weight may increase by 100 lbs., pending further testing (http://flywithspa.com/panthercave/viewt ... port#p1227)?
I was aiming for using an O-320 since I wanted a 150-160HP engine. But I'm open to an O-200 as well. Part of me would be very excited to build a Corvair engine - I've always wanted to learn how to work on engines - but most of me wants to feel secure about the engine keeping my rear in the air

Anyways, my question is, has the testing for the Panther Sport's gross weight been done, and what is the likelihood of the gross weight going up to 1250 lbs.?
Thanks,
Stephen
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