Bottom line, build don't worry. There's already one EAB Panther.
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51% Rule
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A forum for Panther aircraft builders and Enthusiasts. Two simple rules: Play nice and use a real name
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Tony Spicer
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Re: 51% Rule
So, does anyone have a bottom line on this as it applies to the Panther, without my having to try to decipher a bunch of FAA legalize?
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Tony Spicer
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Re: 51% Rule
Here's what EAA has to say:
When a kit has not been evaluated by the FAA, the burden to prove the aircraft kit complies with the regulations is solely that of the applicant for the certificate. If the kit was purchased prior to September 30, 2009, and no commercial assistance was used, the aircraft will be certificated under the prior policy. If the kit was purchased after September 30, 2009, or if any commercial assistance was used, the new policy will be used to certificate the aircraft.
More:
http://www.eaa.org/govt/ab_qa.asp
http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/gen_av/ultr ... isting.pdf
Tony
When a kit has not been evaluated by the FAA, the burden to prove the aircraft kit complies with the regulations is solely that of the applicant for the certificate. If the kit was purchased prior to September 30, 2009, and no commercial assistance was used, the aircraft will be certificated under the prior policy. If the kit was purchased after September 30, 2009, or if any commercial assistance was used, the new policy will be used to certificate the aircraft.
More:
http://www.eaa.org/govt/ab_qa.asp
http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/gen_av/ultr ... isting.pdf
Tony
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mccool
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Re: 51% Rule
Yup I could use Ken MacLeod's email. Thanks Tony. My Sonex flew off to Texas last fall and I'm going through withdrawal.
It certainly has been the frozen north up here lately. We're not used to this kind of weather this far south. We're at the same latitude as northern California for heavens sake!
It certainly has been the frozen north up here lately. We're not used to this kind of weather this far south. We're at the same latitude as northern California for heavens sake!
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Tony Spicer
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Re: 51% Rule
Aha! James Neely, another Sonex builder from the frozen north. Welcome to the world of Panthers. I'm guessing Ken MacLeod, a Sonex builder in Ottawa can answer your question, as he has a Panther tail kit. Holler if you need his email. Be a long time before the Panther makes the list, as it requires a visit from the FAA folks (I think). If an airplane isn't on the list, then it's up to the builder to convince the inspector. Not a problem with the amount of work required to build a Panther.
And I just remembered, to his buds James is Ace McCool.
Tony
And I just remembered, to his buds James is Ace McCool.
Tony
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mccool
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Re: 51% Rule
The Panther doesn't seem to be on the FAA list yet. How does that work? Could be an issue to build in Canada, since they use that list for approval.
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Tony Spicer
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Re: 51% Rule
Dan,
That certification requires a factory visit by a team from the FAA. Lacking that, it's up to the builder to convince the FAA inspector/DAR. If a quick-build RV-X or Sonex (yes, there's now a QB Sonex) meets the requirement, a Panther sure as heck will.
Tony
That certification requires a factory visit by a team from the FAA. Lacking that, it's up to the builder to convince the FAA inspector/DAR. If a quick-build RV-X or Sonex (yes, there's now a QB Sonex) meets the requirement, a Panther sure as heck will.
Tony
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51% Rule
I am sure that the Panther qualifies for the 51% rule. Is that qualification documented anywhere so the builder can feel confident that he or she will not have a problem when going for the pink slip.
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